bona natural seal on white oak

The installer did a great job with the install, he fell down with the stain and finish. I am posting some final outcome pictures in different rooms and lighting. Then the next day a coat of finish. Floors are already sitting in the new house acclimating and I know that I am not cut out for the oil finish.). If so, they are normal surface marking, nothing to worry about. The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. (The Classic has less of a haze.) If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. They are not even good choices for low care floors. wipe down a 1ft x 1ft section with a lightly water damp cloth to see what I mean). Their availability (not alwaysbut sometimes) or their LACK of availability (the best people are ALWAYS BOOKED months in advance). WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. I had some 2 x 2 Corian samples that kept calling my name. Loba in any of its water based formats (low gloss keeps it from looking "finished") options will do exactly what you want. Did you use one or two coats of the Nordic seal? Cant decide! Below Jack and Jill bath with Corian countertop AND Corian integrated sinks. (We dont know for sure what our on site finish will be either but felt we had a little more control this way.). In real life, they look lighter and more uniform in color than shows up on my iPhone. And rubio makes a treatment for acid stains. Looks like it was a screen shot with the flooring compan of Seattle Hardwood out of Mukilteo. We just installed 5 white oak throughout our home. And it is taking me some time to get used to a matte floor. I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. I hope these help someone! Being able to apply multiple coats in a day, depends on the square footage of the project. Yep. That 'fit' can include their ability to communicate. They don't like doing it - because they go through SOOO many screening discs (I've heard of more than 12 discs being used in one home). Bona Naturale will also do this. My contractor recommended leaving it natural and using a Bona Mega finish which was supposed to dry clear. They are light, modern, and show the natural color and variation of the wood. Working Bona Traffic is 10x harder than off the shelf stuff. ), Make sure your installer has experience using the Bona products and especially the Nordic. (I didnt think about this before adding the bookcases.) It requires a special approach. There was a warning on the front door telling everyone to stay out. It honestly looks just like our white oak (unstained, natural) - I wish I could leave it without sealer etc. However, I guess Ill put off retirement for a few more years to make up the cost. Thank you to all of the experts for weighing in. WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. We planned to wait 6 days to move in and will use felts and place furniture down gently. Just my 2 cents worth but typically, OAK flooring will shrink/expand ACROSS the grain it's usually pretty stable end to end, as with most hardwood species. WebSome 5 white oak with Bona Natural Seal and Hd traffic extra matte. For someone to get this done 'properly' takes training. I also have some design software that may help with your need. Not quite "honey oak" but not far from it. We are prepping for a remodel and I have been using my kids roll of art paper and taping it to the ceiling to construct mock ups of potential walls. Has anyone applied the Bona Nordic and HD to white oak stair partsnewel posts/rails ? Our cabinet maker hasn't been able to match what we are hoping for. Would love to see pics of the InteseSeal, as we are considering the same. I think we found a good match. Did G & S need to tell me, Well see how long this finish lasts? No. Can two finish coats be done in a day or should there be a day between all 3 coats? carlyhow many coats of HD did they apply? The Bona Traffic HD is three steps higher than Mega. I have read so many wood floor horror stories. @HU-6868130 your herringbone looks amazing! Looking for something similar to yours, thank you! Hey Merrilyn, looks like we are in the same boat. Look out for inexperience. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. Every client after that training will pay extra for his/her expertise. There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. 2 coats of Nordic seal & 2 coats of traffic HD ? If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. G & S gave helpful advice prior to these last two posts that are nasty. I could also put hot pots on the stainless. How are things holding up a ~year later? They held up to move in with no major scratches. When was the last coat applied? There are some lap lines on the floors from the sealer. Paint them over a piece of white paper and the finish turns orange all by itself! It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. Carly, please provide source for your floors, exactly what Im looking for. Bona A sand/refinish of an existing floor = $4-$5/sf. And DuraSeal is not necessarily considered "professional grade". So much to consider and my cabinet maker doesn't seem to be able to recreate what I am looking for. He did know his stains and how it would finishI will give him that. thanks, so much. Windows for a 1920's Spanish style home in SoCali. It was light and made the room appear larger. are you happy with it 2+ years later (and is it holding up well with food/oil stains etc) please share any details, like if you had 2 or 3 coats. Some comments that NaturalSeal has a slight white cloudiness? I'm so confusedthere is no flooring in the white oak, just the LVP. These will give you the raw look, which prints tend to show up on. They are still drying and look darker in the photos than they do in person FYI. @renee, can you post photos of the completed project? Have experienced installers figured out how to use the Nordic in open floor plan homes? White oak stain is also famous. I settled on something I didnt love and it turned out it was one of the most expensive ones. Thanks so very much Shannon. My stomach-- which had been in a knot for a year due to indecision relaxed. I believe there is a local one and I plan to at least explore that. I still love the white oak but maybe with less wood cabinets maple will be ok. We got our hardwood lumber from a lumber mill in Berryville, VA. Had my red oak floors done in weathered oak and they are still simply too pink. In Honor Of Design Painting Floor Tile or replacing floor tile, Politique d'Utilisation des Cookies de Houzz. Yeah, thats what I am realizing. WebWe ended up using one coat of Bona natural sealer and two coats of HD matte on the floors. The refinishers used "Bona Dri-Fast Natural Stain", "Bona Classic Sealer"*, and "Bona Mega Satin" (two coats). Ill post more pictures when I get back to the house. Oil wax floor finishes are poor choices for cabnet finishes. 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I will post pictures. If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. P.S. I know this is a flooring product but the color was almost perfect. And finally, a 'fit' *might include costs.but it should be much lower on the list than you might think. We want a more modern aesthetic. Thanks again! I am often surprised at how it feels to open/close off certain areas. All the questions and answers have been helpful to me when I have come looking, so I wanted to post photos from today that will possibly help others choose. There are MUCH better systems out there - especially in the water based finishes. I did a lot of research and planned to try Bona NaturalSeal, Bona ClassicSeal and Bona NordicSeal on this round of samples. It did not affect the color. Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. Trying to make this choice right now(within the next two hours- yikes! WebWhen refinishing oak floors, achieving a natural/untreated look can be challenging, particularly when color matching red and white oak in one area of the home. Just stick with Bona Traffic HD in a satin and you will be fine. I used a custom color mix of about 2/3 mist and 1/3 white stain. In fact, Im pretty sure the samples were just wound into the builders quote to us for the floors. I want to make sure the floor is fully coated and not have to buff and finish again sooner than would normally be necessary. ), Share pics of white oak hardwood floors stained with Bona (1st home!). Its no different than my quartz countertop and backsplash that also should not have acidic or harsh chemicals, and Im sure most professional contractors wouldnt recommended against quartz behind a stove. Back to square one. It would have been better to ASK if they put on all 3 coats in one day. Its really helpful to see the product on YOUR wood. Oak floors are beautiful and timeless. I love the natural, light color of the hardwood. Ive read quite a few different comments on all 3 and some seem conflicting. Also I highly suggest getting big samples done with all the coatings. (Plus, the Rubio, the longer it sat there, the more tannins it pulled.) It didnt seem to show the variations in the wood, light to dark, etc, grain, etc. I found a highly recommended company that has experience with placing wood floors in the most humid environments Plenty of high-end homes have wood floors here so someone has to do it & do it well- just find "that" guy! Finally, I coated half of my sample with their Fortico Satin and I could not see the poly at all. Same price as Barker, but more choices for color (I'm doing white uppers/rift oak lowers) and lots of help with my kitchen design. And using Bona Traffic HD is a MASSIVE upgrade over Mega. It was applied Saturday morning.". I got attacked on this thread or another Houzz thread by a contractor for mentioning Rubio for cabinets but I did a ton of research and looked at pictures and it is what we went with. Use natural seal. Then the installer goes over it a second time causing lap marks or white lines. We went with that because the sample board looked exactly like the bare sanded wood, which is what we wanted. It is a way for everyone to see how easy it is to misunderstand posts. We elected to go with rift sawn white oak cabinets. If that's OK to do (ie I remember hearing it's a problem when you apply more layers like poly but I'm not sure) it might work for you. Get the third coat of sealer. For those asking to see Intense Seal on white oak. I like natural white oak with your concept. Curtains will block the bookcase. Ryan Danielson and Angela Watkins did either of you find a solution to achieve the natural white oak finish you were looking for? He said mitering the edges is a nightmare (if you dont mitre, there is a white edge because the color doesnt go all the way through - at least the marble design I chose). The tub area is ok -but Im glad I didnt get it in the kitchen. Do you know if Duraseal is found in home stores? @ Moran.now I see where this has come up. @mtpo your floors are SO beautiful, do you know where they were ordered from and cost per sq ft? View a wide selection of Rugs and other great items on KSL Classifieds. Combining Bona NaturalSeal with a matte-sheen finish such as Bona Traffic Naturale preserves that look and gives your floor the The refinisher used the 'trendy' finish that s/he THOUGHT you wanted to see. I love your wall and cabinet paint too. William Smith, D.D., was @clairepope It's only been a year - so far they are perfect! Here is a link of various lighting for At Ease (it's not shiny at all). Again, just make sure that you are getting professional grade rather than DIY grade product. Carlyweiss, your post and pictures are so helpful for those of us in the choosing process. The natural tones of the wood will allow the rest of the space to look it's best. I prefer to see three coats of finishbut if you MUST save money while still using Traffic HD then you can go down to two coats. As G & S states, the sealers will not AMBER over time (as in get DARKER) but the IntenseSeal and the ClassicSeal will offer SOME tan/yellow. How did you retained the natural color of the wood? The "real" professional-grade products view DuraSeal/Minwax (owned by the same company) to be 'DIY' level products. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? The cabinets were custom and all paint is SW- Pure White. Natural came in too natural or raw (though thats what I thought I wanted). I havent figured out if Im going to use any window coverings yet. I would say he under bid the job and was pushing himself to finish (he rushed the stainwhich is why it is inconsistent) so that he could move on and make money on another job. I am in the same predicament and not wanting to settle for maple! Never to be heard from again. You have NOT hired installer yet! Hi, I know this is 2+ YEARS LATER, What finish did you end up selecting for your parquet floors? Dark Hardwood Floors vs. Light Hardwood Floors? Any suggestions on deciding one over the other? They achieve 95% FULL CURE after 5 days. Can a bathroom door swing out instead of in? Do not use the following Bona naturale, Loba invisible, pearl or pure For the top coat. They didnt have classic to sample, but the sand/finish guy said it would be closer to the Natural than IntenSeal. Floors look VERY good! @Moran Blueshtein. I've seen professionals with 40 years experience ruin a water based applicationtwice. It will make the white oak whiter. 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My husband and I had 5" white oak floors installed and we are like the look of one coat of Bona Nordic Seal and two coats of satin water based polyurethane on our floors. MEANWHILE earlier in the process I had contacted the main Corian wholesaler for the East Coast, and had gotten the name of a fabricator in my area. STAIN OR LEAVE NATURAL??? We went with the Bona Nordic and Traffic HD. A 2 minute working time is EXTREME. My cabinets are custom sizes and I was going to go with Barker cabinets (had my order all ready to send), but someone here on houzz recommended I check out this local guy first, and I am so glad I did! Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. Buyer beware, you should be nervous. I asked for, but he never did, an all country white one. We are building next year and making decisions now. Getting gloomy from cool gray? Is there a really hidden section (you only need about 1 inch square) that you don't mind possibly damaging? I do have a lot of experience with these stones because I own a Granite, Quartz and Quartzite company. And like all things "time is money". I absolutely love the floors. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. Eager to see what you chose and how it turned out. @Jonathan Margareten- I read through my old post, and am not sure if thats what we ended up doing. I worry that two coats might look too light, but with one coat, I still see some yellow coming through (my sample has the Traffic HD matte though, not satin). @Moran Blueshtein, We are having about 3500 sq feet of the wood installed and finished plus stairs. Also hope this helps .. colors hard to see on monitor, I tested classic seal, white stain and Nordic seal as well. I'd love to know what finishes you ended up selecting as well. Classic seall will add more tan/yellow. I think they are some discussions on houzz regarding that. Do you know if the Milesi you ordered includes sealer to stop tannin bleed and a UV filter? Yours looks so light and bright. I had a question as to why you decided only to do one coat of Nordic as opposed to the recommended two? It will 'deepen' the colour you see (ie. A friend of mine had her red oak floors sanded and bleached to get the pink out and then sealed them. If it does nothing: Take a piece of masking tape (not painters tape). I dont want to hide the clerestory windows with coverings and dont like the strings that show with bottom-up shades (maybe OK for the bedrooms). I don't want shine either - so do I do the sealer of Natural and then do an extra matte finish? By the way, did you use any fillers to fill the knots and gaps between the planks? Many, many, many more professional grade finishes. Thats a problem Im left with and he wrote that message to me, not the hardwood installer. If he can't get it donethen hire someone NEW and send the bill to the original contractor. Very patient. If you look at my photos above, the wood sample with one coat of Bona Natural sealer and one coat of Matte Traffic HD looked nice too but looked horrible with one coat of Natural and 3 coats of satin Traffic HD. so you did one coat of natural and two coats of HD? Bona Let's see how long this finish last. Start reaching out to those stores that have 25+ years in the hardwood flooring industry. They either look to white/milkey or they are orangish yellow. If you said you wanted the look of 'raw wood' then matte is what they would have brought. This looks to be pretty natural with a very matte finish. I don't want yellow - so thinking Natural or Nordic - but I'm worried about the white wash being too much. The NordicSeal is a great product for red oak it safely bleaches the wood and removes the harsh red tones. Also is he recommending abrading between the coats? The more coats you apply, the lighter it becomes. They apply the product too thin and it sets up quicker than recommended. I didnt know what I wanted for finish when I contracted the job and their quote was for a cheaper finish. I acknowledged that there would be an upcharge for the TrafficHD and expected it. Founded in 1919, Bona offers products for most premium floor surfaces including When I get to see them, Ill post pics. WebBona Natural Seal stain on white oak hardwood floor and 3 coats Bona Traffic HD Matte on top. My question to tcrp6566 is did you use a sealer first? Is this permissible to use on cabinets. Im torn between satin and matte, We didn't move in yet so I cannot comment on it . I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. They're supposed to start the finish tomorrow morning and it is Bona MEGA clear. Oak floors are beautiful and timeless. I have a dog that has an occasional accident. I would rather find a cabinet line that carries white oak in this stain than go with a cabinet maker. Bona @tkgriff which did you go with and do you like? We got to see snippets of the finished floor today, and we love what we see. Houzz nutzt Cookies und hnliche Technologien, um Ihre Benutzererfahrung zu personalisieren, Ihnen relevante Inhalte bereitzustellen und die Produkte und Dienstleistungen zu verbessern. Your floors are as important as your roof. I originally wanted Corian in the kitchen with a stainless area (Near the cooktop) because they withstand abuse, can be refinished and are hygenic. Finalize your sanding with 150 grit and apply the first coat. I love your base molding, where do you buy that from? The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. Nordic seal has white pigments. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. He can work a section. If, Bona Mega is your budget. Based on the research I've done, Nordic Seal has a tendency to show white streaks on the floor. Just a little darker then the natural rift oak. Be warned the wood and multiple coats of Bona products really add up $$$$. My tub with quartz top. NordicSealis an easy to use water-based sealer from Bonawhich you can use it to achieve this popular whitewashed look. @Jonathan Margareten Hi. If you go natural, then ask yourself ONE question: "Do I like 'honey oak'?" If you answered NOOOOOOOO! I might use the Baro for my cabinetsor the Pallman's Natural. WebIt was natural that he should seek an education in that city and from that institution, for both were allied to him by ties of no ordinary significance. @tkgriff I love your floors and am thinking about going for much the same look! It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. One that I just came up was someone who posted a picture of their island door with Bona NaturalSeal. Was afraid it would look a bit cartoonish or out of place. My fear was that a lower quality finish would yellow or amber the wood. NO true Quartzite will etch. NaturalSeal adds the LEAST amount of 'colour' (either white or yellowdoesn't matter) of all the sealants in the Bona line up. It seems much darker than the close up picture with the paper removed Just wondering which is closer to what you see in person? The least porous Quartzites are actually called crystalline Quartzites. He is also meeting with Sherwin Williams this weekend at a trade show in Vegas and will see if there are any better options to achieve the Studio McGee look on rift white oak we are all looking for. If a few hundred dollars (or even more), meant the difference between loving my finished product and hating it, I felt having samples was well worth the cost. Three teenagers, a dog. My guess would be red oak since they have gone more orange. Full text of "Report of the Commissioner of Education" A red oak floor does not need sealant. This is what G & S was responding to.a quick scan of your answer (I'm guilty of it myself some times) can give the impression that everything was done same day (which it wasn'tbecause I asked about the LAST coatnot the timeline to reach last coat).

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