bmw n20 131501

check got vanos dtc come to relies i switch the cam gears when i install them so i correct it after veh cranks but no start check timming over like 3 time it good. Yann Wehrling, vice-prsident de la rgion le-de-France, charg de la Transition cologique, et Patrice Leclerc, maire de Gennevilliers et Prsident du groupe Front De Gauche la . I have a N20 Engine/ 328i April 2013 / F30, the dash states drivetrain malfunction and the check engine light went on. When I read the code through ISTA, these codes are. F30 N20 drivetrain malfunction after timing chain replacement at dealership : BmwTech 2 Posted by 2 years ago F30 N20 drivetrain malfunction after timing chain replacement at dealership Hey guys, I have a 2014 F30 with the N20 motor and the only mods are the dinan stage 3 tune and a dinan fmic. Maybe a stupid question but I noticed the f31 328i xdrive is mentioned on the form but not the rw ? After several engine stop/start cycles there were still no faults. SHAME ON BMW!!!!! Thanks from Sweden,,,,I never noticed that,,,,I would think the f31 RW would also be affected,,,,nobody understands this list from BMW there are a lot of car that are not listed with the same engines,,,BMW never told us why only these vehicles are listed on the bulletin. And yes the crank wouldnt rotate after being inserted. E84 and E89: I assume it will need to be replaced just because its higher in milage but do you think BMW would warranty it out knowing that theyve said it was lifetime of the vehicle? three fault codes are F10, F25, F30, F31 and F34: No car manufacturer is going to tell you the problems with their car,,,they are just worried about the sale of that car,,,,not what is wrong with that car. DME. Hello there. https://youtu.be/FQ92t236Utg. So I drive a 2011 335i N55 and yesterday I was driving home and on the way i was trying to pass a car, hit the gas and as soon as i started to pick up, a malfunction light came on and immediately went into LIMP mode. SITUATION I have checked timing multiple times, I found this article online and this is what Im thinking right now!! [ Copyright 2013 BMW of North America, Inc. ] The production date of the car was 2015-11-17. I just purchased a 2016 228i xDrive Cabriolet (manufactured in Germany) with 46k kilometers for my wife. Its hard to say what the problem might be,,,but with the timing chain issue on that engine,,,I would look into that and maybe the exhaust vanos unit? Enter the Chassis Number, Today my engine shut off while I was driving. How do you check the oil pressure? The year of 2012 was a year of impending upgrades in . It currently has 165,000 km without any chain problems. If governor works properly engine cant 9600 rpm. We rebuilt it. In sports mode, or when driving more active in doesn't come on. Yes took off the valve cover 3 times so far. Direksiyon kilidi/Kontak alteri BMW paralar 47738. My question is, when I remove the central valve, will the timing chain or sprockets will slip their position? Im wondering if I can just replace those bolts with new steel ones , my car is out of warranty and it has not develop any issues yet , but as precautionary measure I was wondering if this is possible? The extended warranty runs out in December. not have the latest software. Example: 180101 or 1B9308 or 30FF Enter fault code Emissions Standard Or will my timing chain, etc. 2002 M10 4-cylinder from 1962-1988, and N20/N26 has so many attributes to be legendary. possible oil pump chain broken? and if necessary, also Ive change engine mount, spark plug, coil but problem is the same. Most auto repairs shops charge between $75 and $150 per hour. Did they use a different timing chain guide before 06/2012 ? I own a 2015 X1 with a manufacture date of April 2014. and as necessary Ok the 7/70 is a list and is only good up to 7yrs or 70000 miles,,,,if you want the timing chain to be covered past that time then you have to buy a extended warranty. its really a shame that BMW does not step up. The improved DME software was introduced designates changes to this revision Any suggestions on what to check on the Vanos for the 131501 code? Just need to clear the check engine light. Yes I have seen some engines survive,,,,it just hard to say what damage was done to the engine and how bad it is,,,,and is it worth fixing. Cleaned spark plugs and as the mileage was 65000 so I changed the timing chain with a TOOL also. 130304 Vanos exhaust control fault camshaft jammed Yesterday when i was driving the car normally on the hwy the drivetrain malfunction popped up and car went into a reduced power mode. The details of the settlement if approved by court will extend timing chain and oil pump drive chain to 8 years/100000 miles(which ever comes first). Hello question I have 428xi n26 sulev f32 and I was looking at my key reader report and where it says Software version/updates section: I-level current integration level of vehicle F020-19-07-539. I dont know if failing VANOS system should give any data to computer and should show somekind bad data or shouldnt show anything. U tell me, BMW my have a governor,,,but you still can over rev the engine,,,,it is a strange design that doesnt work,,,but I think BMW did this way so they can blame the customer for over reving the engine and not paying for a blown engine. F31 The oil and filter have always been genuine BMW. 131401 Tried to read live camshaft sensors read ista says that currenty no data is sent from them to DME. check out the. i am getting the following error codes on my 2013 BMW X3 (107k miles): Nope,,,,its up to the dealership to make the call for BMW if they will fix the timing chain issue on your car under the TSB. 120308 charge air pressure 130E20 Jake 6,848 satisfied customers I replaced my timing chain and oil chain on my 2012 BMW carlosbosch satisfied customers Daniel If that helps you with anything! also by any chance would you know the torque specs for this bolts? Do I have to buy the extended warranty to get the timing chain replaced by BMW or the 7/70 warranty is for all bmw? I have a SULEV vehicle so its definitely an N20 engine. I took it to the dealership for a diagnostic test and check-up. https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158. Work time (WT) labor operation 61 00 006 requires an individual punch time. Previous posts of timing chain upgrade explains my experience. SB-10053485-8362 I reside in Alberta as well. Is this true? Also that didnt make a difference and fault is still on outlet side. Up to that point the engine was smooth as silk!! The cost of diagnosing the P052B BMW code is 1.0 hour of labor. Hi Im wondering do I need to have a 7/70 warranty to get BMW cover for this problem? My 320i with N20 engine have problem with light accelerator or cruise on hightway, about 1.100-1450 rpm.Engine noise u u u like weve a drone around and with little vibration on steering. 2D61 VANOS, exhaust, control fault, position not reached The car is as we speak back to the dealer for further diagnose and they have seen a slight difference in the crankshaft position or something like that.. one of the shafts was not in the correct angle. They unlock only when oil pressure is applied. Idk what to do at this point im devastated. Thank you so much for your advice. He believes that its not enough oil pressure in the tensioner therefore is not tight as it should be. hello i have a 2013 bmw x3 from a family friend with n20 Picture of my timing chain guide rail cracking: https://imgur.com/4P3ATsK. Thanks! no dtc but it complete its combustion cycle i check for spark, fuel and compression was reading ok on all 4 cylinder but there black smoke and strong gas smell out the exhaust.I allso found wire harness for dinantronics box which is pigger back to DME was rubbing under the eng. 131401 Intermittent VANOS (variable cam shaft timing) exhaust cold start not controllable Im planning to buy a used 2015 BMW X3 xDrive 28i and its in the list. I can of course record my engine startup if thatll let you know the case). Symptoms when timing chain fails is engine wont start,,,engine wont turn over,,,,have your mechanics see if he can turn the motor over by hand with a breaker bar on the front crank bolt. 2D57 VANOS, intake, starting from cold: Position not reached Hi, I have N20 with rough idle. Sorry for the confusion, I understand you have the N20 engine,,,,what Im saying on the N20 engine the vans unit failing is not a common problem like the N51,,,,,on the N20 engine there are no replacement bolts for the vanos unit not like the N51. Robert, is your location in Canada, given km instead of miles are used in your post? Should I proactively replace the timing chain tensioner, part number 11318685091 (replaces part number 11317567680)? Did this on the intake side. also it has a start stall initially. Since its not on the list, does this mean this timing chain guide failure is highly unlikely? My engine is N52 Turn the ignition on. with the following integration levels: F010-13-07-506 for the F10 One other odd problem during this time was the oil level test did not work. 130308 VANOS, exhaust, control fault, position not reached So for the E89 Z4 only the 28i N20 powered model is affected and not the 20i sDrive? Ok,,,if you have a sulve then you have a N26 which is ok,,,you need to tell the dealership that you hear a abnormal whine from the engine area and hopefully they do something about this timing chain issue. I bought 2012 X1 with 85,000km and after reading different posts makes me worried about the timing chain issue, I called the dealer they said there is no recall on this vehicle except driver side air bag! Was it how the faults were cleared that made the difference? Code 130308 VANOS Exhaust Control fault position reached https://youtu.be/Frj0a82XfDo, He did not notice any whining- but do you hear whining in this second video? Next day scanned and found codes 120208 (charging pressure control, plausibility pressure too high) and 120408 (charging pressure control, deactivation: pressure build-up blocked. BMW replaced the motor and shipped it to us in AZ from Virginia. I had 2014 328i and having no issue yet so far,but im concern about the timing chain since my car is on the list of having problems with the timing chain,i checked the vin number to see if there is a recall for that and did not see anything,what should i do to double check ?should i go to dealership and just tell them about this bulleti? if you can direct me in the right path I will really appreciated . Thank you!! Hi, thank you for the reply. Hello BMW technician, I know there is a lawsuit going on with N20 timing chain in NJ District Court Hello BMW Technician, I have a 2011 BMW 535i with N55 engine. repairs to the engine valve train assembly. Andreas first and foremost thank you for sharing your knowledge. module. 120408: Boost pressure control, cut off pressure rise blocked. everything in the vehicle works extremely well. F10, F25, F30, F31 and F34: So I thing exhaust vanos is not working, or not working correctlycan I get in touch with you? The I-level is newer than the I-level specified in SI B12 15 13. I ended up scanning and getting below codes. Hello, if I have used the tool how it is possible no to be on timing ?! The fault returns when its hot outside and comes back even faster when I turn on the air conditioning. The BMW N20 is a 4-cylinder, turbocharged engine produced from 2011-2017, and was BMW's replacement for the naturally aspirated 3.0L 6-cylinder N52/N53 engines. When the VANOS solenoids were removed for testing I checked the marks I made on the VANOS impulse wheels and on the harmonic balancer and they looked perfect. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Perform a vehicle test. The hardcore BMW fan base could not help but fall in love with the spritely performance offered by this upgraded engine. Yes that crack in the timing chain guide should be enough to replace the timing chain and guide rails,,,,the way we decide if the car is covered is by whine noise,rattle noise,broken pieces of timing chain guide,,,how before we get the extended warranty that is hard to say,,,it all depends on the legal side of the lawsuit Im sorry to say. Any comments/tips on both, car only has 49k miles. It goes from 0 8 kpa and back to 0 will cranking do you have any idea what that reading should be on the fuel rail. My rule if its not broken dont fix it,,,,dont take the solenoids apart ok,,,,the turbo boost fault was related to the vanos faults. Apr 14, 2022 BMW F30 328i 2013 N20 engine "Drivetrain malfunction etc" comes on occasionally. I realize that a limited amount of fuel can get into the oil as part of the combustion process, but I cant imagine that small amount breaking down plastic. Looking forward to the return of your blog. Everything else works perfectly at 176,000km. I bought a BMW F20 118i with N13 1.6 engine. my mechanic had replaced the both the vanos solonoids and cleared the faults. Im going to trade. Having the same. Tried test with ista for vanos solenoid test removed solenoid stiff does not move when activated. Today I changed Chain tensioner as preventative maintenance, but soon I start the car, I got Drivetrain Malfunction. The engine was idling when it happened. What about the rest? Page 1 of 4 131908 VANOS, intake, starting from cold: Position not reached document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. 120408 Intermittent Charging pressure control: switch-off as consequence another repair, use the Plus code labor operation 00 00 556 instead. Timing is performed by the timing chain. Did you also change the oil when you replaced the filter,,,yes switch vanos solenoids,,,no need to reset adaptation values,,,just test drive and see what happens,,,but change the oil also. Note that the desired angle was constant. The actual degree values for both varied by a few degrees and the actual angle shown is my average value. now I have a question for you and hoping to get a direction. BMW like to keep some things to them selfs,,,,they dont want to release any information if they dont have to. I got a few drivetrain malfunctions last week: 131501 vanos, intake, cold start; not adjustable 120408 reduced power mode. The first start up gave many more codes but I have cleared the fault codes several times and these two appear along with the consequence fault code of 120408 Charge pressure control off. I've done exactly the same thing and caused this issue by replacing the timing chain tensioner. I fear that your 2012 X1 is now past the 7 year warranty limit. Example: P1055 Hex Codes are typically given by more advanced scanners. Not sure if he meant evap leak. Disregard my question. You think BMWNA would cover timing chain here if brought in for inspection? only be fixed if it seems like my car will experience the issue (like if they hear the rattling noise that commenters have mentioned/you replied about. It idles fine and sounds much better than before. Page 3 of 4 I dont think they will take your picture as evidence,,,,but you could give it a try it wouldnt hurt, Hello- The timing was checked several times after installing the new chain. I havent been sleeping well. You only touched an accessories belt part. The short version of this story is that the car is working now. Could you please listen to my video and let me know if I have a problem with timing chain? 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It also features dual VANOS, valvetronic, and direct injection. Ive enjoyed your blog and I hope you will start posting again. You are correct almost all the problem are in the States,,,all the engines are built in the same plant,,,there is a good chance that the fuel is the cause of these problems,,,,yes it is a good thing your car is not on the list. My engine shut of while idle in park. Sorry for the confusion, No, We are just have an idea that it is fuel related due to other countries dont have the same problem as we do,,,and we have different fuel requirement then other countries,,,,so what might be happen is the the fuel burn is not as great as other countries and causing more stress on the timing chain causing it to break down. one of the plug had corroded pins due to leaking pigtail from that Dinan harness and i got the DME clone. It should show something like incorrect angle/position. Unfortunately for me, I was not informed about an extended free warrantee on the chain and guides, BMW kept it quiet. procedure outlined below. Hey, I have a 2014 BMW 428i (F32 with an N20 engine) it is just under 70k around 61,000 I believe and it looks like it was manufactured in 9/2013. I have a 2013 528xi. Risking my good fortune I had to run the VANOS function test again. When I go to accelerate now, the engine lags. The improved DME software was introduced test drove car, get a few codes. I am troubleshooting an issue with it already for weeks now and unfortunately I was not able to find the root cause yet. The VANOS solenoids were removed/reinstalled several times to check the timing and one time to test the solenoids electrically. 2D54 VANOS, exhaust, starting from cold: Non-adjustable to model implausibly too high . Here the vehicle was driven only at SP98. code:131501 VANOS, intake, cold start: not controllable. 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